{"id":609,"date":"2009-08-14T21:28:56","date_gmt":"2009-08-15T04:28:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wp.colliertech.org\/cj\/?p=609"},"modified":"2009-08-16T14:24:21","modified_gmt":"2009-08-16T21:24:21","slug":"looking-to-get-iron-and-the-dlr-into-redhat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/?p=609","title":{"rendered":"Looking to get Iron* and the DLR into RedHat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I sent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.redhat.com\/archives\/fedora-legal-list\/2009-August\/msg00013.html\">an email<\/a> to the Fedora Legal list asking whether they will accept software released under the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opensource.org\/licenses\/ms-pl.html\">MS-PL<\/a> license.  My <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/photo.php?pid=1377409&#038;op=1&#038;o=global&#038;view=global&#038;subj=1189872046&#038;id=521571895\">friend<\/a> and former colleague, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nsa.gov\/research\/selinux\/list-archive\/0807\/26751.shtml\">Brett Lentz<\/a> mentioned that he was concerned that the Fedora folks might not accept software released under the MS-PL.  So I asked.  I also bcc&#8217;d a certain troll on said mail so as to get lots of flame mail.  I&#8217;m practicing to become a master twitterbaiter.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:monospace\"><br \/>\n14:43 &lt; cj&gt; wakko666: so&#8230; we are building ironruby\/ironpython debian packages over on OFTC\/#debian-cli<br \/>\n14:43 &lt; wakko666&gt; k<br \/>\n14:43 &lt; cj&gt; meebey just packaged up mono 2.4.2.3 in .deb<br \/>\n14:44 &lt; cj&gt; with some backported patches required to get the DLR language engines running correctly<br \/>\n14:44 &lt; wakko666&gt; k<br \/>\n14:44 &lt; cj&gt; we&#8217;re using xbuild to perform the build, thanks to ankit&#8217;s recent patches.<br \/>\n14:44 &lt; cj&gt; alarm went off.  need to address food.<br \/>\n14:44 &lt; wakko666&gt; i know that mono is already in Fedora.<br \/>\n14:45 &lt; cj&gt; great.  any idea what version?<br \/>\n14:45 &lt; wakko666&gt; <a href=\"http:\/\/koji.fedoraproject.org\/koji\/packageinfo?packageID=30\">http:\/\/koji.fedoraproject.org\/koji\/packageinfo?packageID=30<\/a><br \/>\n14:45 &lt; cj&gt; we&#8217;ll need 2.4.2.3 + some patches.  This is pretty bleeding edge, but I expect the fedora packagers are as &#8216;on it&#8217; as the debian folks<br \/>\n14:46 &lt; wakko666&gt; fedora tends to be a bit further ahead of the curve than the debian folks<br \/>\n14:46 &lt; cj&gt; we can supply them the patches required.  they are also being merged into the 2.4 branch, so should be in the next official release<br \/>\n14:46 &lt; wakko666&gt; k.. shouldn&#8217;t be a problem.<br \/>\n14:47 &lt; cj&gt; here is the tarball we&#8217;re using to build the .deb<br \/>\n14:47 &lt; cj&gt; <a href=\"http:\/\/github.com\/mletterle\/ironruby\/tarball\/20090805+git.e6b28d27\">http:\/\/github.com\/mletterle\/ironruby\/tarball\/20090805+git.e6b28d27<\/a><br \/>\n14:49 &lt; cj&gt; most of the stuff you&#8217;ll need as far as build commands go are in debian\/rules:<br \/>\n            <a href=\"http:\/\/git.debian.org\/?p=pkg-cli-libs\/packages\/dlr-languages.git;a=tree;f=debian;h=8e4c0abc01ba2db27fe66d508317cef3b574fd3a;hb=f3c10b84cf5f12cb670d14232263ac81662ff714\">http:\/\/git.debian.org\/?p=pkg-cli-libs\/packages\/dlr-languages.git;a=tree;f=debian;h=8e4c0abc01ba2db27fe66d508317cef3b574fd3a;hb=f3c10b84cf5f12cb670d14232263ac81662ff714<\/a><br \/>\n14:49 &lt; cj&gt; I&#8217;ve got to finish making lunch for kids ;)<br \/>\n14:49 &lt; cj&gt; back shortly.<br \/>\n14:55 &lt; wakko666&gt; cj: my main concern about packaging ironruby is licensing. Fedora will accept packages under the MS-Shared-Source license [ed: this is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.redhat.com\/archives\/fedora-legal-list\/2009-August\/msg00017.html\">not at all true<\/a>.], but the MS-PL isn&#8217;t on their list of acceptable license. [ed: <a href=\"http:\/\/fedoraproject.org\/wiki\/Licensing#Good_Licenses\">it is now<\/a>.]<br \/>\n14:58 &lt; cj&gt; wakko666: alrighty.  <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jschementi\">jschementi<\/a> is the guy to talk with about licensing issues.  He&#8217;ll be back some time soon, I&#8217;m sure<br \/>\n14:58 &lt; wakko666&gt; of course, i can always write the spec file and you guys can host your own rpms, but it would be nice to actually get it into Fedora proper.<br \/>\n14:59 &lt; cj&gt; also, MS-PL is dfsg compliant and OSL-approved.  Is it a decision to deny MS-PL or that it just hasn&#8217;t been reviewed yet?<br \/>\n14:59 &lt; wakko666&gt; not sure. we&#8217;d need to ask on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.redhat.com\/mailman\/listinfo\/fedora-legal-list\">fedora-legal-list<\/a> mailing list<br \/>\n14:59 &lt; wakko666&gt; <a href=\"http:\/\/fedoraproject.org\/wiki\/Licensing#SoftwareLicenses\">http:\/\/fedoraproject.org\/wiki\/Licensing#SoftwareLicenses<\/a><br \/>\n15:00 &lt; cj&gt; alright.  at another time.  it&#8217;s nap time for scarlet and zelda. ;)<br \/>\n15:01 &lt; wakko666&gt; sure thing. if you ping the fedora-legal list, let me know what they have to say.<br \/>\n19:49 &lt; cj&gt; wakko666: firestorm initiated.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n\n<div class=\"twitter-share\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?via=cjamescollier\" class=\"twitter-share-button\">Tweet<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I sent an email to the Fedora Legal list asking whether they will accept software released under the MS-PL license. My friend and former colleague, Brett Lentz mentioned that he was concerned that the Fedora folks might not accept software released under the MS-PL. So I asked. I also bcc&#8217;d a certain troll on said [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[38,188,60,17,189,147,79,103,44,207,118,181,206,194,116,47,37,7,101,113,166,191],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-609","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-c","category-cli","category-colliertech","category-debian","category-dlr","category-feds","category-free-software","category-freenode","category-friends","category-git","category-humor","category-irc","category-ironpython","category-ironruby","category-language","category-linux","category-microsoft","category-mono","category-security","category-social-networking","category-software","category-xbuild"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1YDIB-9P","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/609","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=609"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/609\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":633,"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/609\/revisions\/633"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=609"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=609"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp.c9h.org\/cj\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=609"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}